Jewish Intifada
"Israeli soldiers and police officers stormed a disputed building ..in ...Hebron,, dragging out 250 young settlers....Activists responded with ..attacks on Israeli forces and Palestinians......settlers rioted, setting fire to at least 3 Palestinian houses and burning 9 cars."
Associated Press and NY Times, Dec. 5, 2008.
It took some 600 Israeli soldiers and police to evict the settlers, who had been ordered to vacate the four-story house by the Israeli Supreme Court. Settlers claim to have bought the house from an Arab, but apparently could not produce a valid deed.
Incidents of Jewish violence, against both Arabs and Israeli security forces, have been reported in recent months. These acts are both foolish and reprehensible, and portend more serious trouble ahead.
My sympathies are with the Israeli soldiers, who were carrying out the legitimate orders of their government in enforcing a court decision. Although no doubt some of the soldiers are sympathetic to the goals of the settlers, they carried out their responsibilities professionally, and with notable restraint, considering the violence they encountered. So far both the IDF and the settlers have avoided the use of deadly force against one another, but violent conflicts tend to escalate; and there is the real prospect of Jews killing other Jews if the resistance to eviction orders continues.
What are the settlers thinking, if they are thinking? Do they not realize that they ultimately depend on the Israeli Army for their own security in the West Bank? How dare they hurt the soldiers that are protecting them? These acts are bound to create animosity toward the settler movement among the soldiers they are fighting; since most Israeli families have a member in the military, attacks on the soldiers may turn the majority of the country against the settlers!
From the press reports, it appears that Jewish attacks on local Palestinians were unprovoked, but many Arabs responded by throwing rocks at both settlers and Israeli soldiers. We know that the Palestinians hate Israel, and especially the settlers, but why inflame their hostility? Why provide a pretext for attacks on Israelis? How long will Palestine Authority (PA) security forces stand idly by while Arabs are harmed? If they try to protect their brethren, will there be armed clashes will Israeli forces? The fragile co-operation between Israeli and PA security forces is seriously endangered by these events.
Palestinians are likely to avenge these attacks, either on the settlements in the West Bank or inside Israel . Morevoer, Israeli Arabs may also be impelled to turn against their Jewish neighbors. Trouble begets trouble.
As bad as all this is right now, the future looks even worse. After the Israeli elections, the new government will resume negotiations with the PA over the establishment of a Palestinian state in the West Bank. (1) Since this "Two-State Solution" to the Arab-Israeli conflict has been endorsed by the present Government of Israel, the Quartet (2) and the Arab League, it is hard to believe that those opposed to such a state will prevail. The PA wants all settlers to leave the area, but there is no reason for Israel to agree to such a demand. The price of a Palestinian state must include acceptance of a substantial Jewish population, which must enjoy all the rights of citizenship that Arabs living in Israel have today. But this can only work if there is peace between Arab and Jew in the West Bank, and Jewish violence is every bit as destructive of this goal as is Arab violence.
If Israeli leaders are contemplating evicting all Jewish settlers from the West Bank, as they did from Gaza, and before that from Sinai, the resistance in Hebron should serve as a "wake-up call." There are hundreds of thousands of Jews living in the West Bank; the exact number depends upon where you draw the line between that land and Israel. Removing that large a number by the labor-intensive, non-lethal, methods used so far in Hebron and Gaza would take the entire Israeli Army, including reserves. Since the Army is also needed to guard the Egyptian, Lebanese, and Syrian borders, deploying it in this manner is not practical.
Suppose that the Israeli Army withdraws from the West Bank and the bulk of the settlers remain. If the PA forces then try to evict them, they will face far more fierce and lethal resistance than the IDF faces now. Their will be no restraint on the use of deadly force by either side. The result could be horrendous, and could trigger another Middle East war.
The only hope for a peaceful resolution to this imbroglio is for all sides to exercise restraint: the settlers must obey Israeli law and co-operate with the Army, the Palestinians must forgo revenge and accept the permanent presence of Jews in their country, and the Israeli leadership must abandon the idea of forcing the settlers out of their homes.
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(1) Gaza is a "de-facto" independent Arab state right now, but no one wants to recognize this. Re-uniting Gaza with the West Bank under a single government is about as likely as Bangladesh rejoining Pakistan.
(2) The United States, Russia, the European Union and the United Nations.
Associated Press and NY Times, Dec. 5, 2008.
It took some 600 Israeli soldiers and police to evict the settlers, who had been ordered to vacate the four-story house by the Israeli Supreme Court. Settlers claim to have bought the house from an Arab, but apparently could not produce a valid deed.
Incidents of Jewish violence, against both Arabs and Israeli security forces, have been reported in recent months. These acts are both foolish and reprehensible, and portend more serious trouble ahead.
My sympathies are with the Israeli soldiers, who were carrying out the legitimate orders of their government in enforcing a court decision. Although no doubt some of the soldiers are sympathetic to the goals of the settlers, they carried out their responsibilities professionally, and with notable restraint, considering the violence they encountered. So far both the IDF and the settlers have avoided the use of deadly force against one another, but violent conflicts tend to escalate; and there is the real prospect of Jews killing other Jews if the resistance to eviction orders continues.
What are the settlers thinking, if they are thinking? Do they not realize that they ultimately depend on the Israeli Army for their own security in the West Bank? How dare they hurt the soldiers that are protecting them? These acts are bound to create animosity toward the settler movement among the soldiers they are fighting; since most Israeli families have a member in the military, attacks on the soldiers may turn the majority of the country against the settlers!
From the press reports, it appears that Jewish attacks on local Palestinians were unprovoked, but many Arabs responded by throwing rocks at both settlers and Israeli soldiers. We know that the Palestinians hate Israel, and especially the settlers, but why inflame their hostility? Why provide a pretext for attacks on Israelis? How long will Palestine Authority (PA) security forces stand idly by while Arabs are harmed? If they try to protect their brethren, will there be armed clashes will Israeli forces? The fragile co-operation between Israeli and PA security forces is seriously endangered by these events.
Palestinians are likely to avenge these attacks, either on the settlements in the West Bank or inside Israel . Morevoer, Israeli Arabs may also be impelled to turn against their Jewish neighbors. Trouble begets trouble.
As bad as all this is right now, the future looks even worse. After the Israeli elections, the new government will resume negotiations with the PA over the establishment of a Palestinian state in the West Bank. (1) Since this "Two-State Solution" to the Arab-Israeli conflict has been endorsed by the present Government of Israel, the Quartet (2) and the Arab League, it is hard to believe that those opposed to such a state will prevail. The PA wants all settlers to leave the area, but there is no reason for Israel to agree to such a demand. The price of a Palestinian state must include acceptance of a substantial Jewish population, which must enjoy all the rights of citizenship that Arabs living in Israel have today. But this can only work if there is peace between Arab and Jew in the West Bank, and Jewish violence is every bit as destructive of this goal as is Arab violence.
If Israeli leaders are contemplating evicting all Jewish settlers from the West Bank, as they did from Gaza, and before that from Sinai, the resistance in Hebron should serve as a "wake-up call." There are hundreds of thousands of Jews living in the West Bank; the exact number depends upon where you draw the line between that land and Israel. Removing that large a number by the labor-intensive, non-lethal, methods used so far in Hebron and Gaza would take the entire Israeli Army, including reserves. Since the Army is also needed to guard the Egyptian, Lebanese, and Syrian borders, deploying it in this manner is not practical.
Suppose that the Israeli Army withdraws from the West Bank and the bulk of the settlers remain. If the PA forces then try to evict them, they will face far more fierce and lethal resistance than the IDF faces now. Their will be no restraint on the use of deadly force by either side. The result could be horrendous, and could trigger another Middle East war.
The only hope for a peaceful resolution to this imbroglio is for all sides to exercise restraint: the settlers must obey Israeli law and co-operate with the Army, the Palestinians must forgo revenge and accept the permanent presence of Jews in their country, and the Israeli leadership must abandon the idea of forcing the settlers out of their homes.
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(1) Gaza is a "de-facto" independent Arab state right now, but no one wants to recognize this. Re-uniting Gaza with the West Bank under a single government is about as likely as Bangladesh rejoining Pakistan.
(2) The United States, Russia, the European Union and the United Nations.
Labels: Hebron, Israel, settlements, West Bank
posted by Gerald S Glazer at 1:45 PM
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You seem to not be aware that the current plan (see below) is to expel all of the Jews from the territories and anyway the Arabs surely would never accept a single Jew in their new country except as a temporary visitor.
The settlers are fighting for their right to live where they want to live, where they chose to live, where they were brought up, where they had their children, where their Jewish patriarchs are buried (second holiest site in Judaism in Chevron), where the fist Israeli Temple to G-d was made, where their ancestors had a state that lasted for a millenia, between 3 and 2 thousand years ago, where almost all of the Israeli cities mentioned in their bible (Torah) are located, and where in fact they got their name, i.e. Judah.
Jews are named after Judah or Judea, the territory where their first state was centered; and which is now called the West Bank.
Expelling Jews from Judea is like expelling the Irish from Ireland.
Finally to expel the Jews from Judea and Samaria as the Arabs and Israeli government want and intend to do is to pay homage and allegiance to the Nazis. When this happens this will be the first time in history since WWII that any country attempted to make its land "judenrein".
The fact that other Jews and Israelis would go along with this and support this is about the worst thing I can thing of regarding Israel. If Israel does this, it will be the end of Israel. If Jews cannot bring themselves to stand up for the Judea and Samaria, then they do not deserve Israel and they are highly unlikely to keep it.
Ivan
Olmert Plans Transfer of Judea, Samaria Jews to Negev
Kislev 6, 5769, 03 December 08 11:29by Maayana Miskin(IsraelNN.com) Acting Prime Minister Ehud Olmert revealed Wednesday that he still plans to move many Judea and Samaria Jews to other parts of Israel. During a tour of the area in which the IDF plans to build “Bahadim city,” Olmert said, “In an unstoppable process, tens of thousands of people will move from Judea and Samaria to the Negev.”
The process of developing the Negev will begin with the construction of a large army base, Olmert said. “Tens of thousands of people in this country understand that the country's future lies here. The army gives us the opportunity to begin this process,” he said. “This is a national process unlike anything since the establishment of the state.”
Olmert and IDF officials discussed concrete plans to develop the area, such as the construction of a train leading to the Bahadim army camp. Once the Bahadim army camp is built, Negev roads will be unable to handle the heavy traffic in the area, they said.
Olmert began his term as Prime Minister with a promise to force tens of thousands of Jews out of their homes in Judea and Samaria under what he termed “the Convergence.” He has repeatedly said Israel must make “painful concessions” in order to make peace with the Palestinian Authority, which demands all of Judea and Samaria.
A similar plan was in place for Jews expelled from their homes in Gaza. Senior government officials said at the time of the expulsion, in 2005, that former residents of Gaza would settle barren areas along the Ashkelon coast and in the Lachish region between Hevron and Be'er Sheva. Construction recently began on some permanent communities for expellees in the Negev. In other sites, building has yet to begin. Most the Jews expelled from Gush Katif still live in temporary housing.
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One more thing. I find your title Jewish "Intifada" to be quite offensive. Belwo is form Wikipedia and it describes the Arab intifada.
"Palestinian tactics have ranged from carrying out mass protests and general strikes, similar to the First Intifada, to armed attacks on civilians and security forces, suicide bombing attacks, and firing Qassam rockets into Israeli residential areas. Israeli tactics have consisted of creating checkpoints, enforcing strict curfews in certain areas, riot control (sometimes shooting stone throwers along with better-armed rioters), returning fire, mounting incursions, constructing the West Bank barrier, demolishing houses, destroying shops without permits, conducting arrests, and assassinating militant and political leaders (sometimes also causing civilian casualties)."
What is the relationship between the real "intifada" in whch Arabv targetted innocent civilians and murdered hundreds of Jews and Jewish settlers simply trying to stay in a house that they bought and paid for legally from Arabs?
It is interesting that you did not give the history and facts regarding this house. I will do this in the next post.
Ivan
Re: "The price of a Palestinian state must include acceptance of a substantial Jewish population, which must enjoy all the rights of citizenship that Arabs living in Israel have today." How is that going to happen when the Arabs won't even accept a Jewish State of Israel!?
Also, why don't you condemn the Israeli government for evicting Jews from Judea and Samaria? How can one expect the Palestinians to accept Jews living there if the Israel governement does not!?
This what you should have written, this is what any Jew who loves Israel and Torah should have written.
Ivan
Treachery and Tyranny in Hebron
%Date%by from "Fundamentally Freund" - Michael Freund(IsraelNN.com) Israel's government today sent the security forces into Beit Shalom in Hebron and forcibly evicted its residents, despite overwhelming evidence that the building was legally purchased from its previous Arab owner.
In a shocking display of ruthlessness, the government has trampled on the property rights of the Jewish owners, tossing to the wind one of the foundations of democracy and civil society.
Make no mistake - this travesty was carried out for purely political motives. The Labor party and Kadima are both sagging in the polls, and fear that parties such as Meretz will steal their thunder and their votes.
Since there is no better way to try and win the hearts and minds of the far-left than by sending in baton-wielding troops to smash up "the settlers", that is what took place today - broadcast live courtesy of Israeli television.
Whatever one thinks of the Jewish residents of Judea and Samaria, all can and should agree that what happened today in Hebron was an outrage. It was an act of treachery and tyranny by a caretaker government with no mandate and no moral justification.
Shame on those who made the decision - and shame on us, the public, for not raising our voices more loudly to prevent it from happening.
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With a bitter history of the expulsion of Jews from the Gaza and northern Samaria regions three years ago and the violent expulsion of residents from Amona two years ago, nationalists warned they will stand against all force aimed at evicting Peace House residents.
Leaders have called on backers to protect the Peace House in Hevron “with their own bodies” to prevent the government from carrying out a High Court ruling Sunday ordering the expulsion of more than 20 families. The court rejected evidence that Jews bought the building and said all residents must leave until the issue is settled in a civil court.
Slamming the court for carrying out a leftist agenda while totally ignoring evidence that the building was legally bought, a coordinating committee decided Sunday night to encourage more families, including public figures, to join the families in the large structure.
The High Court gave the residents three days to move out, but Hevron leaders estimate no action will be taken until next week because of the presence of thousands of Jews expected this week for the Sabbath when Jews around the world recite the portion of the Torah that begins with the legal purchase of the Cave of the Patriarchs by Abraham.
Several people have said police will be involved in all-out war if they try to carry out the High Court ruling, and Hevron spokesman Noam Arnon said he will ask outgoing Prime Minister Ehud Olmert to intervene and prevent violence.
Micha’el Ben-Horin, an IDF officer with two sons who are commando soldiers, warned that that any expulsion attempt will bring with it “violence, hatred, polarization and a weakening of the IDF.”
He said he personally would escort the Peace House residents out of the buildings if the government were to uphold High Court rulings that Jews can pray on the Temple Mount.
Hevron leaders condemned the court decision as being part of an agenda to act against nationalists while ignoring incitement against them by leaders who oppose a Jewish presence in Judea and Samaria.
Initial reports by the Israeli media indicated a campaign against nationalists would continue, and Voice of Israel government radio said that statements against the High Court, calling it a “High Brothel” and “High Court of Sodom,” are incitement. Media commentators also recalled the murder of Prime Minister Yitzchak Rabin, who was assassinated by Herzliya resident Yigal Amir.
They are portraying nationalists as disregarding the law. However, surveys have shown a continued dwindling faith by Israel in the court and political system, which has been accused of prejudice and bias.
Here is the TRUTH. I don't know if you are simply ignorant of these facts or if you are a member of the anti-Israel group Peace Now; but either way you should be ashamed of yourself.
Ivan
12/05/2008
Jews Evicted From Hebron 'Peace House'
By David Bedein, Middle East Correspondent
Jerusalem - On Thursday, Israeli troops and police evicted nine Jewish families from the Jewish-owned "Peace House" in Hebron, after a week of protests against preparations of the Israeli government to do just that.
In March 2007, an American businessman, Maurice Abram of Brooklyn, invested more than a million dollars in the purchase and refurbishing of a four-story home in the old Jewish quarter of Hebron. Nine families with children moved into "Peace House" in Hebron.
However, the Peace Now movement, funded by the Norwegian, Finnish and British governments, in addition to donations from the Washington-based New Israel Fund, sued in the Israel High Court of Justice to evict the Jewish families from "Peace House" in Hebron, claiming that the purchase of "Peace House" was not valid.
The Israeli government supported the Peace Now position in court.
Despite the fact that Mr. Abram and his Jewish Hebron clients presented documentation and audio recordings of the "Peace House" purchase agreement, the Israel High Court ruled that the Israeli government had the option to evict the Jewish families from "Peace House," while the ownership had yet to be resolved by the Jerusalem District Court.
After the Israel High Court ruling, Israeli government radio and Israeli government TV misleadingly reported that the Israel High Court of Justice had ordered that the Jewish families of "Peace House" must be evicted. That false news report was repeated every day for the past two weeks on almost all Israel government newsreels.
On Thursday morning, Israel Defense Minister Ehud Barak met leaders from the "Council of Jewish Communities of Judea and Samaria," including the Jewish community of Hebron
The Council of Jewish Communities asked Mr. Barak to delay the eviction, pending a hearing in the Jerusalem district court evaluation of the ownership of "Peace House."
However, Mr. Barak rejected the request for a court hearing and dispatched several hundred troops to evict the nine Jewish families and their children who lived in "Peace House." along with several hundred Jewish teenagers who had arrived to express their support for a permanent Jewish presence in "Peace House."
David Bedein can be reached at Bedein@thebulletin.us
©The Bulletin 2008
The official statistics document that over 1000 Israelis were murdered in the second Intifada and 80% were civilians, yet you call an expulsion of 9 Jewish families by the IDF in Hebron where noone was seriously hurt or killed the "Jewish Intifada"?
Either you are claiming that Jews are misrerable failures at running an Intifada, you are totally ignorant of the facts, or you have a political agenda in twisting the facts.
Which is it?
Ivan
"A total 1,134 Israelis have been killed in various types of Palestinian
attacks since the beginning of the Intifada, seven years ago, according Israeli
Foreign Ministry data, which included in the death toll the civilian and
military Israelis killed in Israeli and Palestinian territory. The chart of the
Israeli victims shows a strong rise in the first years (to reach a peak of 451
in 2002, in which 60 Palestinian suicide attacks occurred), and then a constant
drop. The Israeli victims were a total eight in 2007. The latest Palestinian
suicide attack (three dead Israelis) took place in January in Eilat, on the Red
Sea."
Here are the words of one of the young women Jewish perpetrators of what Glazer calls a "Jewish Intifada". If there was an intifada it was perpetrated by the IDF and the Israeli government.
Ivan
After the Expulsion
Kislev 10, 5769, 07 December 08 10:35by Nadia Matar(IsraelNN.com) I would like to thank the dozens of people who called and sent emails to ask how I was doing. Thank G-d, I feel better and returned home after having been in the hospital.
The many beatings by the expulsion forces dressed in black who kicked us and beat us with their clubs during the expulsion from Beit HaShalom (Peace House) paralyzed me completely, and the paramedics feared my neck and spine had been hurt. I was rushed to the Shaarei Tzedek hospital. Thank G-d, after different tests in the hospital, all was shown to be okay.
My body obviously hurts very much, but that will pass in the next few days. My fighting spirit, on the other hand, has only increased and was strengthened after I had the honor to spend the entire last week, together with thousands of others, in Beit HaShalom.
We had the honor to get to know the 14 wonderful families who have been living in Beit HaShalom for the past year and eight months, and the many other activists from Kiryat Arba-Hebron. I am telling you, there are not enough words to describe those wonderful Jews. They gave us the most incredible lesson in hospitality and in love, and in total devotion to the Land of Israel. In addition, I want to salute the wonderful hundreds of youth who came to Beit HaShalom and strengthen them.
I would like to address the lies and disinformation coming out of Ehud Barak's office and being spread by the media. We are being told that the expulsion from Beit HaShalom went by "smoothly and was done within an hour."
It is important to announce that this is a complete lie. The truth is that, against all expectations, the expulsion from Beit HaShalom took them at least four days. As you recall, many expulsion troops already arrived in the area on Monday and it was clear that they planned to do it Monday night. But thanks to the thousands of loyal Jews who came and stayed in Beit HaShalom, and thanks to the hundreds of youth who did not stay indifferent to the attacks by the Arabs, the planned expulsion was prevented and postponed
This lasted until Thursday. Every day, over a thousand people stayed in Beit HaShalom and the government just added more and more troops to the area. In addition, the government did not expect that the planned expulsion would start such fierce demonstrations all over the country. There were daily protests all over the country by hundreds of Jews outraged at the thought of the upcoming crime.
I am convinced that had we managed to keep over a thousand people in Beit HaShalom also on Thursday, the expulsion would not have taken place. May this be a lesson for us in the future.
In addition, it is hard to say that the expulsion is over with. Yes, they managed to take us out temporarily from Beit HaShalom, but since the expulsion there are demonstrations and disorder by loyal Jews protesting all over the country and hopefully this will just be the beginning. We must make sure that the government pays a heavy price for the expulsion of Jews, so that in the future they will think twice if this is worth it for them. The message is clear: if it took so many days and so many forces to expel Jews from just one house, then don't even think you will ever again be able to uproot Jews from an entire community. In addition to the protests all over the country, the Beit HaShalom residents have already announced that they plan to go back to Beit HaShalom, even if it means living in tents in the vicinity.
I am writing these words the day after the expulsion from Beit HaShalom. I am sure that in the next few days we will have many more conclusions and thoughts about what happened, so we can learn for the future struggles.
Here is more TRUTH on the supposed "Jewish Intifada".
I have some direct knowledge about the IDF in Hevron as I was there and talked with an IDF soldier about the situation last year. He was a secular young Israeli man about 19 and he hated the settlers because he wanted to be in Tel Aviv not the West Bank. He blamed everything on the Orthodox and the Jews of Hevron. I am sure that the IDF allows the Hevron Jews to be attacked.
But I guiess Mr Glazeer does not give a shit about this.
Ivan
Hevron Jews: IDF Stands By While Arabs Attack
Kislev 10, 5769, 07 December 08 05:48by Maayana Miskin(IsraelNN.com) The committee representing the Jewish community of Hevron has written a letter to senior IDF and police commanders in the Hevron district regarding what they say has become a known phenomenon: Arabs attack Jews, and soldiers and police witness the attacks but do nothing to stop them.
"Over the last few days we have witnessed the IDF and police's deliberate neglect of Jewish residents' welfare in the Hevron region,” the letter said. “Time after time Jews are attacked by Arabs in life-threatening incidents, while soldiers and police officers stand by and do not take action to stop the attacks or enforce the law on Arab rioters. They say these are the orders they received.”
The committee listed some recent incidents:
--On Saturday, November 29, Arabs threw large rocks at a Jewish teenager from a short distance. The 16-year-old Jewish teen was hit and suffered a gash on his head that required seven stitches. IDF soldiers witnessed the attack and did nothing. The Arab attackers have not been arrested.
--On Monday, December 1, Arabs carried out several rock attacks against Jews. In the most serious attack, 16-year-old Elyasaf Asban was hit in the head by a large rock and critically wounded. He underwent a complex operation and remains in critical condition. His attackers have not been arrested.
--On Thursday, December 4, Arabs stoned pedestrians and vehicles on the only road leading to the Tomb of the Patriarchs (Ma'arat HaMachpelah) and the Jewish community of Hevron. Border Police commanders allegedly told Jews who complained, “You don't have permission to throw rocks in response,” and did nothing to stop the attacks.
--On Thursday, December 4, two young Arab women armed with clubs attacked a Jewish woman with three young children. The attack took place only a few yards from a Border Police checkpoint near the Tomb of the Patriarchs. The attackers attempted to beat the young children and baby. Border Police officers stopped the attack but did not arrest the attackers, and merely told them to go home.
-On Friday, December 5, Arabs threw rocks at Israeli vehicles. Some vehicles were very badly damaged. Soldiers did not intervene, and none of the attackers were arrested.
Committee members emphasized that the list only contained a fraction of the examples available.
Police and soldiers "have been taking an attitude of 'understanding' and even 'justification' towards Arab aggression," committee members alleged. “This is at a time when the attacks are getting more severe and even life-threatening,” they said.
Soldiers and police may be angry due to fights between Arabs and Jews and Jewish attacks on Arab property, but that does not mean all Jews should go without protection, they said. "While we understand the IDF and police's resentment over Jewish attacks on Arabs in the region in recent days, we disagree with the policy of 'a price tag' or 'collective punishment' of all Jewish residents in the area, and we call on you to act with composure and order IDF soldiers and Israeli police officers to act harshly against Arab rioters before there are fatalities,” they wrote.
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Mr Glazer thinks that the forced expulsion of Jews from the Peace House in Hevron is analagous to the Arab Intifada which resulted in the murder of over 1000 Israelis. A more appropriate and accurate analogy is Waco.
Ivan
The Waco Siege[11] (also known as the Waco Massacre[12] ) took place on February 28, 1993 when the United States Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF) attempted to execute a search warrant at the Branch Davidian ranch at Mount Carmel, a property located nine miles (14 km) east-northeast of Waco, Texas. An exchange of gunfire resulted in the deaths of four agents and six Davidians. A subsequent 51-day siege by the Federal Bureau of Investigation ended on April 19 when fire destroyed the compound. Seventy-six people died in the fire, including 21 children and two pregnant women, along with Davidian leader Vernon Wayne Howell, better known as David Koresh.
Here is the REAL violence that Mr Glazer should be writing about.
Ivan
Death sentence to those who sell land to Jews
Freih Abu Middein, responsible for the Justice portfolio in the Palestinian Authority, said that the PA will impose the death sentence on any Palestinian involved in selling land to Jews or Israelis. The Palestinian Legislative Council voted last week to authorize the PA to strengthen security and judicial frameworks in order to crack down on such land sales. Arutz Sheva News Service Monday, May 5, 1997 / Nisan 28, 5757
The body of the Arab real estate agent Farid al-Bashiti, who was murdered last week by Arafat's security forces, was examined today in the (Israeli) Pathological Institute in Abu Kabir. His family was refused permission to hold a funeral ceremony in a Jerusalem mosque, and the imam [the prayer leader] told them that he should be buried next to the murdered Arab who sold his Jerusalem apartment to Ariel Sharon some years ago. MK Chanan Porat (NRP) has joined his colleague MK Shaul Yahalom in asking the Attorney-General to open an investigation against top Arafat-advisor Dr. Ahmed Tibi. They claim that Tibi's remarks against Palestinians who sell land to Jews - "They have sold their soul to the devil" - constitute incitement to murder. Al-Bashiti was murdered the same day that Tibi's remarks were broadcast. Arutz Sheva News Service Sunday, May 11, 1997
SECOND ARAB MURDERED FOR SELLING LAND TO JEWS Harbi Muslah Abu-Sara, of the Arab village Ein-Yabrud near Ofra, was found dead with gunshot wounds in his head this past Saturday in PLO-controlled Ramallah. Villagers say that he was suspected of selling real estate to Jews. Abu-Sara's murder is the second killing of this sort since the announcement by Freih Abu-Medein, holder of the Justice Portfolio in the Palestinian Authority, that any Arab who sells land to a Jew will be executed. Yesterday, Farid al-Bashiti, a 70-year-old eastern Jerusalem real estate agent, was laid to rest after being brutally slain on suspicion of selling properties to Jews. According to Israeli officials, he was seen at Arafat's Force 17 headquarters in Ramallah on Thursday night, May 8th. Five hours later, the hospital in Ramallah phoned his wife and told her to "come and pick up your husband's body;" his skull was crushed, his hands were tied behind his back, and his mouth was sealed with plastic tape. His burial was delayed because of threats by Muslim elements who wished to prevent his body from being interred in Jerusalem.
The Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman expressed outrage at the murder of Bashiti. The Judea-Samaria Israel Police District spokesman said that the police would not investigate the murder, as the crime was perpetrated in an area under Palestinian jurisdiction. American congressmen, including U.S. House International Relations Committee Chairman Benjamin A. Gilman (R-NY) and Jim Saxton (R-NJ), have labeled the new PA policy "racist and anti-Semitic."
Arutz Sheva News Service Monday, May 19, 1997
"We condemn this abhorrent crime and emphasize that despite all the conspiracies, Jerusalem and Palestine from the river to the sea will remain Islamic until judgment day... A land speculator for the Jews, in whose birth certificate it states that he is a Muslim, was killed. There is a possibility that his body will be brought to Al-Aksa mosque or another mosque. We wish to remind you that Islamic law forbids the washing and wrapping in shrouds of his body and forbids praying for his soul or burying him in a Muslim cemetery. We call upon you to beware. This should serve as a lesson to all traitors and speculators who collaborate with the Jews."
--- in his weekly sermon at Al-Aksa Mosque on the Temple Mount (Voice of Palestine, May 9, 1997)
Ali Mahmud Araf Jamhur, 32, an Israeli citizen living in Shuafat, Jerusalem, who sold a house to the Jewish group Elad, was shot to death yesterday near Ramallah. He is the third Arab land dealer to have been murdered in the past few weeks. The Palestinian Authority has denied any involvement in the killing, but Minister of Public Security Avigdor Kahalani said today that there is no doubt that Yasser Arafat gave the order to kill Jamhur; he ordered an intense police investigation into the murder. Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu stated today that the killing poses a great question mark as to the intentions of the PA to attain a peace agreement with Israel.
Jamhur sold a house in Abu Tor to Elad six months ago. The original owners published a notice in the Arab press, saying they did not know that Jamhur dealt with Jews. Last week, Jamhur received a phone call at his place of employment in a restaurant in Clal Center in Jerusalem, telling him to appear for interrogation at the Palestinian GSS in Ramallah. He was released after two days, and he told his family that his interrogators told him there was no evidence against him. Yesterday, he left his home at 10 AM, and his body was found four hours later outside of Ramallah.
Evyatar Cohen, of the Elad group, told Arutz-7 today that the Arabs of eastern Jerusalem are fearful for their lives, because "even if you're only suspected of dealings with Jews, you can be taken to the Palestinian GSS offices, and brutally beaten up, and likely killed a few days or hours later." He blamed Israel for not doing anything to stop the killings. He said, "[PA official] Abu Medein recently said that even Israeli Arabs will be killed if they sell land to Jews.
Arutz Sheva News Service Sunday, June 1, 1997 / Iyar 25, 5757 / 40th day of the Omer
The Palestinian Authority received from the previous Israeli government a list of all of the land sales in Judea and Samaria up until the signing of the Oslo II agreement, including the names of the Arab sellers and the Jewish buyers. Military sources confirmed as much today to Arutz-7 correspondent Haggai Huberman. In a related topic, an Arab land-dealer from Kalkilyeh - Rashad Salameh - has been missing from his home for three weeks. He helped many Jews buy lands in Samaria over the past years, and worked with the Israeli security forces. Intelligence reports have it that a relative of Salameh's in the Palestinian security forces abducted him. Twelve land-dealers are still being interrogated and tortured in Bethlehem PA offices.
Arutz-7 News: Friday, June 6, 1997
An editorial in the semi-official Egyptian government newspaper Al-Ahram has come out in support of the killings of the Arab real estate agents. The decision of the Palestinian Legislative Council is touted by the newspaper as nothing more than an actualization of its authorities recognized under international law. The author criticized Israel for the help that it has offered the threatened agents.
Arutz-7 News: Sunday, June 8, 1997
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Palestinian people do not exist
A provocative headline? It’s more than that. It’s the truth.
Truth does not change. Truth is truth. If something was true 50 years ago, 40 years ago, 30 years ago, it is still true today.
And the truth is that only 30 years ago, there was very little confusion on this issue of Palestine.
You might remember the late Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir making the bold political statement: ”There is no such thing as a Palestinian people.”
The statement has been a source of ridicule and derision by Arab propagandists ever since. They love to talk about Golda Meir’s ”racism.” They love to suggest she was in historical denial. They love to say her statement is patently false – an intentional lie, a strategic deception.
What they don’t like to talk about, however, are the very similar statements made by Yasser Arafat and his inner circle of political leadership years after Meir had told the truth – that there is no distinct Palestinian cultural or national identity.
So, despite the fact that conventional wisdom has now proclaimed that there is such a thing as the Palestinian people, I’m going to raise those uncomfortable quotations made by Arafat and his henchmen when their public-relations guard was down.
Way back on March 31, 1977, the Dutch newspaper Trouw published an interview with Palestine Liberation Organization executive committee member Zahir Muhsein. Here’s what he said:
The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct ”Palestinian people” to oppose Zionism.
For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.
That’s pretty clear, isn’t it? It’s even more specific than Golda Meir’s statement. It reaffirms what I have written on this subject. And it is hardly the only such statement of its kind. Arafat himself made a very definitive and unequivocal statement along these lines as late as 1993. It demonstrates conclusively that the Palestinian nationhood argument is the real strategic deception – one geared to set up the destruction of Israel.
In fact, on the same day Arafat signed the Declaration of Principles on the White House lawn in 1993, he explained his actions on Jordan TV. Here’s what he said: ”Since we cannot defeat Israel in war, we do this in stages. We take any and every territory that we can of Palestine, and establish a sovereignty there, and we use it as a springboard to take more. When the time comes, we can get the Arab nations to join us for the final blow against Israel.”
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