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Karen Fletcher, of Donora, Pennsylvania, then 54, set-up a website called The Red Rose Stories. com in 2006 and posted a number of fictional stories describing sexual abuse of children in graphic terms. Readers were required to pay $10 per month, and she had garnered nearly 30 subscribers when she was arrested and charged with violating Section 1462(a) of Title 18 of the US Code, which bans publishing obscenity. Her computer was confiscated, and the website taken down. Facing the prospect of years in prison, Miss Fletcher plead guilty in August, 2008, as part of a plea-bargain.
Since the website no longer exists, I cannot provide any direct quotes from Red Rose Stories. But one of them, entitled "M&M" is a about a 5-year old slave girl who is tortured and raped; that should give you a taste of what Miss Fletcher was peddling. I would stipulate that the story was explicit, gruesome, and prurient. I would also stipulate that most, if not all, of the subscribers to the website were perverts who have a violent sexual interest in children.
I consider those who use children to create pornography or otherwise abuse them are vicious criminals who deserve severe punishment. But note that Red Rose Stories were pure fiction. No real children were harmed in the writing or posting of these stories, any more than any real horse was harmed in the writing and publication of The Godfather! There were no photos, not even drawings, in the Red Rose Stories; Karen Fletcher is being punished for nothing more than entering words from a computer onto the Internet.
The First Amendment to the Constitution provides that " Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press..." Does that protect the right to publish obscene material?
The US Supreme Court ruled 5-4 in Miller vs California (aka Miller vs US) (1) that the First Amendment does not protect some material that "appeals to prurient interest" and "lacks ...value". (2) Defendant Miller had been convicted of mailing unsolicited photos of sexual activity to some California residents who reported it to state authorities; Miller appealed his conviction all the way to the US Supreme Court.
Justices Hugo Black and William O Douglas dissented, pointing to the clear and unambiguous language of the Amendment ("no law"), which contained no exceptions of any kind. The US Attorney in the Fletcher case cited the Miller ruling in the plea-bargain agreement.
If one holds that the Second Amendment grants an absolute right to keep and bear arms, then one should also hold that First Amendment grants an absolute to write and publish anything, no matter how vile. Those Americans who embrace the "original intent" of the framers of the Constitution and Bill of Rights would find that the framers of the First Amendment had no intention of allowing any form of federal censorship of writings. Although one could argue that photography and the Internet did not exist when these documents were drafted and ratified, written pornography long pre-dated the US Constitution; the First Amendment could easily have included an exception for "indecent" or "obscene" writings, just as other amendments contain exceptions. (3)
On this issue I prefer the intellectual company of Justices Black and Douglas over that of the majority of Court in the Miller decision. The obscenity standard in Miller is just as much "judge made law" as the convoluted trimester regime in Roe v Wade. But even those who support the Miller ruling should note two important differences between Miller and Fletcher: Fletcher's material contained no photos at all, and Fletcher sent her materials only to those who had ordered and paid for it. Both differences indicate that Fletcher should not have been prosecuted.
The Fletcher prosecution is an unfortunate example of the tendency of our federal "nanny-state" to intrude as much as possible into the otherwise private and personal affairs of ordinary Americans. Not only can the federal government censor the Internet, it can now find out what books you borrowed from your local library!
You may argue that fiction such as the Red Rose Stories should be banned because readers may be inspired to commit the crimes depicted in them. I, for one, do not want to go there: much of literature and entertainment is about crime, especially murder (like Macbeth, Hamlet, Julius Caesar, etc.). A popular TV show (Law and Order-SVU) often deals with molestation of children. I do not know if criminals really do get some ideas about crimes to commit from books, TV or the Internet, but I would consider it a preposterous invasion of our freedom to ban all depictions of crime because someone might actually commit one.
I would prefer to live in a society so free that everyone could write and publish whatever they wanted to, rather than one in which the government reserved the right to ban obscenity. Lee Greenwood once wrote, " I am proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free!" (4) Mr. Greenwood, meet Miss Fletcher.
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(1) 413 US 15, 24 (1973).
(2) The ruling affirmed Roth v US , 354 US 476 (1957), which upheld another anti-obscenity law. Some of the language in Miller cited Roth.
(3) For example the Fifth Amendment states, "No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces...."
(4) God Bless the USA!
Since the website no longer exists, I cannot provide any direct quotes from Red Rose Stories. But one of them, entitled "M&M" is a about a 5-year old slave girl who is tortured and raped; that should give you a taste of what Miss Fletcher was peddling. I would stipulate that the story was explicit, gruesome, and prurient. I would also stipulate that most, if not all, of the subscribers to the website were perverts who have a violent sexual interest in children.
I consider those who use children to create pornography or otherwise abuse them are vicious criminals who deserve severe punishment. But note that Red Rose Stories were pure fiction. No real children were harmed in the writing or posting of these stories, any more than any real horse was harmed in the writing and publication of The Godfather! There were no photos, not even drawings, in the Red Rose Stories; Karen Fletcher is being punished for nothing more than entering words from a computer onto the Internet.
The First Amendment to the Constitution provides that " Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press..." Does that protect the right to publish obscene material?
The US Supreme Court ruled 5-4 in Miller vs California (aka Miller vs US) (1) that the First Amendment does not protect some material that "appeals to prurient interest" and "lacks ...value". (2) Defendant Miller had been convicted of mailing unsolicited photos of sexual activity to some California residents who reported it to state authorities; Miller appealed his conviction all the way to the US Supreme Court.
Justices Hugo Black and William O Douglas dissented, pointing to the clear and unambiguous language of the Amendment ("no law"), which contained no exceptions of any kind. The US Attorney in the Fletcher case cited the Miller ruling in the plea-bargain agreement.
If one holds that the Second Amendment grants an absolute right to keep and bear arms, then one should also hold that First Amendment grants an absolute to write and publish anything, no matter how vile. Those Americans who embrace the "original intent" of the framers of the Constitution and Bill of Rights would find that the framers of the First Amendment had no intention of allowing any form of federal censorship of writings. Although one could argue that photography and the Internet did not exist when these documents were drafted and ratified, written pornography long pre-dated the US Constitution; the First Amendment could easily have included an exception for "indecent" or "obscene" writings, just as other amendments contain exceptions. (3)
On this issue I prefer the intellectual company of Justices Black and Douglas over that of the majority of Court in the Miller decision. The obscenity standard in Miller is just as much "judge made law" as the convoluted trimester regime in Roe v Wade. But even those who support the Miller ruling should note two important differences between Miller and Fletcher: Fletcher's material contained no photos at all, and Fletcher sent her materials only to those who had ordered and paid for it. Both differences indicate that Fletcher should not have been prosecuted.
The Fletcher prosecution is an unfortunate example of the tendency of our federal "nanny-state" to intrude as much as possible into the otherwise private and personal affairs of ordinary Americans. Not only can the federal government censor the Internet, it can now find out what books you borrowed from your local library!
You may argue that fiction such as the Red Rose Stories should be banned because readers may be inspired to commit the crimes depicted in them. I, for one, do not want to go there: much of literature and entertainment is about crime, especially murder (like Macbeth, Hamlet, Julius Caesar, etc.). A popular TV show (Law and Order-SVU) often deals with molestation of children. I do not know if criminals really do get some ideas about crimes to commit from books, TV or the Internet, but I would consider it a preposterous invasion of our freedom to ban all depictions of crime because someone might actually commit one.
I would prefer to live in a society so free that everyone could write and publish whatever they wanted to, rather than one in which the government reserved the right to ban obscenity. Lee Greenwood once wrote, " I am proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free!" (4) Mr. Greenwood, meet Miss Fletcher.
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(1) 413 US 15, 24 (1973).
(2) The ruling affirmed Roth v US , 354 US 476 (1957), which upheld another anti-obscenity law. Some of the language in Miller cited Roth.
(3) For example the Fifth Amendment states, "No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces...."
(4) God Bless the USA!
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Well I have a few questions.
We do not have unfettered free speech as well known in the famous example of yelling fire in a theater when there is none. In this case all one is doing is engaging in fiction and there are no pictures involved. Why is this wrong but Fletcher is right? Is all speech equal?
You suggest that the 2nd amendment is like the 1st amendment therefore, if you allow "absolute right" to bear a gun therefore you have an "absolute right to free speech. But we do not have an absolute right to use the gun therefore do we have an absolute right to use the speech? Does the purpose of the speech matter?
I do not know where the Fletcher case fits with the ruling of the Supreme Court. If this case was such an offense to the Constitition and to the ruling of the Supreme Court then why was this case not brought to the Supreme Court?
I suspect that the prosecuters offerred her a lenient sentence for her plea bargain, because this no one was apparently hurt by this web site. Interestingly you never tell us what punishement she received. However if some child had been raoed by a member of the web site, then surely she would have received a stiffer snetence.
I think the currect situation allows for the local courts and prosecuters to use their good judgement to prosecute the case accordingly, as they probably did. However, if there had been major damage done, let's say a serial rapist who got inspiration from the web site for example, it would have been a travesty of justice if if she had not been prosecuted.
I like the current system as it seems to work; and seems able to adjust to the appropriate situation. I see no travesty of justice here at all.
I have some closeness to this issue.
Back in the 80s, I worked very closely with several Georgia House of Representatives members. One of the issues we worked on was child pornography. In helping a State Representative prepare legislation, I had the misfortune of seeing things I wish I had never seen. You have no idea how disgusting the child pornography is.
The problem is not just that the victims who perform on these disgusting materials are under age, it is not just that they can't consent, it is not enough that they are often held in captivity, but, when they became so old that they could no longer perform kiddy porn, they were sometimes murdered to keep them quiet.
The government has a legal duty to protect what is legally classified as infants. Anyone under 18 falls into this category.
This website you refer to was selling the stories. There was no defense such as art, or science. This woman was selling fictional stories of child sexual abuse that could inspire real crimes.
I for one am thankful that she was shut down. Your post is naïve to the damage someone like her did. I would not defend a child pornographer.
If it is a site with adults, I would agree with you. Even if the site has pictures and video, I would agree. I would just choose not to visit the site. However, when the site is a for profit site promoting sexual abuse of children, it should have been shut down.
Walter
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Paul M. McLaughlin
S.C.A.N. Stop Child Abuse NOW! since 1975
Donora, Pennsylvania to Portland and Eugene, Oregon
1975 --- 2008
Stop Child Abuse - Save Our Children since 1975 from Donora,
(Pittsburgh), Pennsylvania to Portland & Eugene, Oregon by a
handicapped survivor, Paul M. McLaughlin. Paul grew up in
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October 13, 1948 ---- 2007
Paul's twin sister, Paula McLaughlin, passed away on August 27, 2007 in
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Paul and Paula born on October 13, 1948 in Donora, Pennsylvania
Paul and Paula born on October 13, 1948 in Donora, Pennsylvania
The triumph of one man over a childhood during which he and his twin
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Paul and Paula McLaughlin Parents
Pearlie William (Bill) McLaughlin
Violet E. Cline
The twins father is NOT their father. The mother is also a handicapped
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McLaughlin's parents WERE NOT ABUSE WHEN THEY WERE
CHILDREN. Paul and Paula's older brother and sister were NOT
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Hospital report from Charleroi, Pennsylvania
As a precious little boy came close to death twice at age of one
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PAUL CAN SEND YOU THE COPY OF THAT REPORT.
Posted onto web page and have to find it.
Graduated in Donora, Pennsylvania at the age of 21, SPECIAL EDUCATION
In 1970, Paul graduated from RINGGOLD High School at the age
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Cheated on written test to enter the military (2 years) at Fort Dix, New Jersey to Fort
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Scars on face and body from beatings. The only child in school with
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In Donora, Pennsylvania many dislike for Paul speaking out against
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Survivor and His Works
Paul is a survivor and not a victim. Because of his suffering he did
not abused himself or the society with no drugs, no gangs, not
disrespect his parnets, not kill school teachers/school friends and
most of all, not abused children.
Since 1975, Paul speak out against child abuse on talk radios, open
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Newspaper and magazine articles. Display work and street campaign.
All of Paul's Fund Raising are NONPROFIT for crippled children,
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The Year 2047
In the year 2047, the Paul M. McLaughlin story will continue to help
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child has endured. Time capsule can be seen on photo pages of this and
many events in Paul's history life. TIME CAPSULE IN EUGENE, OREGON
http://www.efn.org/~scan/paulpics.html
Paul and his wife, Elizabeth in Eugene, Oregon
Today, he and his wife Liz now live in Eugene, Oregon where they
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Illness
As of 2000, Paul taken ill with MS. Paul had to learn to walk, speaking,
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